"No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine." - - - William Blum

February 01, 2010

The Last Chance

Recently, after President Obama's State Of The Union speech, I wanted to have a different dialogue with my conservative family over politics. Take Obama's advice, stop the same old arguments and vitriol. Unfortunately, the results were not surprising.

I'll keep it short. It went something like this... Obama didn't inherit any problems from bu$h, and he should have solved the economic crisis facing the U.S. by now. The bu$h "Tax Cuts" for plutocrats have helped the American worker. "The Housing Bubble" was created by Democrats because they wanted everyone to own a home, regardless of the deceptive lending practices. True documented facts aren't history... unless it's the new fake facts, which make it solid conservative history. Why should they pay for the "Health Care Reform", when they have insurance. The old standards still hold true, "Greed is Good" and "Gay Rights" equals tolerance for pedophiles. Abolishing the Fairness Doctrine did not open the door for Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Nullifying the Glass-Steagall Act was good "Free Market" Capitalism. The recent Supreme Court decision favoring corporate contributions still leaves individuals on equal footing. There was no long term conservative agenda or right wing conspiracy stemming from The Powell Memo, (yet, refused to read it). Don't call conservatives racists if they oppose Obama's policies, especially those conservatives who do not confront and protest the creation, spreading and/or laughing at Obama jokes; but it was fine to call Progressives and Liberals traitors when they opposed the Iraq war Americans were lied into by the bu$h administration. And the funniest line of all, conservatives don't watch FOX NEWS.

I honestly tried to start the conversation in a positive manner. I mentioned that we must have some common ground and proceed from there, I even complimented them by saying, "At least conservatives have stuck to a long term agenda for what they think is right for the country." After family values and honesty, we started to move in different directions and the discussion started to fade fast. I gave in on "National Security", but mentioned we spend too much money on it. I agreed on "self-sufficiency" after everyone from all social classes has equal opportunity. One major sticking point on "freedom from too much government", came when I said, "Then you must let the individual decide what is right for themselves, such as a Woman's right to choose." The conversation quickly moved to "Right to Life", and I mentioned it's fine for conservatives to want the baby to be born but don't support government programs for the child when he's growing up. I couldn't get any of them to concede on gun restrictions for inner cities. Since the conversation got tied up with Corporate America's rights, we didn't even get to the environment and climate change.

I will say it started genteel enough, but after awhile it was back to the same old caustic arguments. I now know it is useless to talk to these automatons, even if they are family. They are the most shallow, thick, misinformed, obtuse group of riffraff I have ever known. This was the last chance. I will stop wasting energy and effort reaching out for a middle ground... their thought process is closed off for new ideas, deeply entrenched and rooted in ignorance. I'm proud that I gave an effort but learned Progressives must outlast and persevere. Progressives cannot ever trust conservatives, they are like "The Terminator", and will not ever stop! I know the truth is on our side. Sorry President Obama, nothing has changed the conservative mindset.

cross posted at Low and Left Part Deux

5 comments:

Mike said...

I think that conservatives can joke all they want about Obama. Thousands of books, movies, shows and careers were spawned by ridiculing Bush, so let them have their warped humor too. It's only fair.

Everyone (and I mean everyone) in my families are ultra-conservative, so I feel for you.

Seven of Six said...

My point is the racist humor... they let the racist humor pass, look away or ignore it... they should be calling it out... my Sister has Grandchildren who are half-black but she will send me e-mails joking about watermelons, fried chicken, white faced Obama and him resembling a monkey... if I had half-black grandkids I'd be fuming! It really is the hypocrisy, she used to call me a traitor because I was against the Iraq war, so now I mention her being a racist.

Mike said...

7 of 6:

Check out the poll I mention in Bits and Pieces. Republicans by and large (whatever that means) reflect your family (and mine) to a tee.

Seven of Six said...

I saw that... hilarious, they are sick, confused individuals... amazing the same blood runs in our veins.

Daro said...

You could have just given a selection of Ron Paul's talking points to your cons. family:

Close the 170 overseas military bases bankrupting the US

Federal Reserve is a banking scam and needs investigating

Bush should not have given 1 dime to banks

Corporations are off-shoring the whole economy

(I think these are all Dennis Kucinich's talking points too...)