|"....I'll say that out loud. If Hillary hadn't voted for the war, the war wouldn't have taken place. And I'll justify that comment.|
"Implicit in your question is the suggestion that everybody else would have still voted for the war, and we would have had the war anyway. That misses a HUGE point that is sticking in the craw of all the anti-Hillary Dems, like me, that remember that lack of any real debate in the Congress or the media during the run-up to the war.
"There was a strategy to that silence. The Clintonistas and the DLC Left of the Democratic Party just closed its eyes and let Bush and the Republicans do what they want for cynical political reasons that didn't have to do with the actual welfare of this country. Such silence had to be coordinated. As Howard Fineman noted on the day of the AUMF vote, all the Democrats that were planning to run in '08 had voted for the AUMF.
"I'm just really sick and tired of everybody laying ALL the blame on Bush. 2002 was a year of enormous betrayal of the American people, and it wasn't all just the work of Bush. It took the complicity of the Clintonistas and their entourage and machine, as well as the complicity of the American media.
"Bush deserves to roast in Hell for what he did, but he deserves a little company from his enablers. I can give Edwards some forgiveness for acknowleding that what he did was wrong, but I can't forgive Hillary, because, of all people, if she and Bill had stood up and say, "Slow down, this could be a genuine first-class disaster we are walking into," enough of the rest of the party would have fallen into line with them to slow the rush to war.
"As it is, there was no opposition to speak of. And that is in many respects an even greater sin than what Bush did. We expect criminals to rob banks. We don't expect the tellers to help them make their getaway.
- - - Dumbo
May 18, 2007
I think we'll be hearing this kind of stuff for the next 18 months: